From comp.os.os2.advocacy Wed Jun 9 11:02:14 1993 From: david.mato...@yob.scci.com (David Matocha) Date: 8 Jun 93 23:10:17 GMT Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy Subject: HAL-PC NT vs OS/2 Shoot-out HAL-PC [the Houston Area League of PC users, 2nd largest users group in the U.S. with 10,000 members) had a Windows NT vs OS/2 shoot-out last Friday evening with presentations by Microsoft and IBM. In true Texas tradition these "shoot-outs" feature head to head comparisons between competing products. As in an Old West shoot-out, one competitor walks away with his head held high while the loser ends up face-down in the dust. Such was the case last Friday. The audience consisted of a standing room only crowd of approximately 1300 representing a cross section of HAL-PC members and guests. Microsoft's Doug Davis, of the NT development team, spoke first and began his presentation with a set of 'slides' presented from a 486/66MHz PC running NT, followed by a brief tour of NT itself. Mr. Davis did not demo any DOS or Windows 3.x applications running under NT. He did show how a user could change the mouse pointer from the standard MS 'arrow' to an arrow with a wiggling tail or to Doug's favorite, a galloping horse. Doug referred often to NT's security and system administration features. During the NT presentation I kept thinking that NT looked a great deal like Unix with a Windows interface. The other impression that the Microsoft's presentation left was that NT appeared fat, slow and boring...something that only a network administrator could love. The OS/2 presentation by David Barnes of IBM was entirely devoted to a tour of OS/2 2.1. David's presentation on a 486/33 machine w/16MB was lively and animated (literally). He first started an animated graphical DOS application called Popeye in a window on the OS/2 desktop. While pointing out to the audience that NT cannot run graphical DOS applications in a window he opened various Windows and OS/2 applications and pointed out that the hourglass never appeared and that the animated DOS application 'Popeye' never missed a beat. David showed Windows 3.x applications, DOS applications and OS/2 applications including Wordperfect for DOS, the Far Side Calender for Windows, Describe 4.0, and miscellaneous other applications all running simultaneously on the desktop. He captured the graphical screen image from 'Popeye' and pasted it into a Describe document while pointing out that the DOS application Popeye continued running even while the graphics screen was frozen for the clipboard copy. David also created a simple OS/2 applications from scratch in about 5 minutes using drag and drop methods on Digitalks's Parts product. Without typing any code he setup a control panel with a slider, twist knob and digital display which was linked via DDE to a Lotus for OS/2 worksheet. A pie chart from the worksheet had been linked to a Describe document earlier in the presentation. As the slide or knob was manipulated with the mouse, the digital display would update, the corresponding cell in the Lotus Worksheet would update and the pie chart in the Describe document would redraw. The key point in this portion of the demonstration was that this entire procedure was accomplished without writing any code, live, and in just a few moments. Very impressive. Unlike the MS presentation, the IBM presentation was interrupted by frequent applause. The noise level in the hall continued rising as neighbors discussed the points that IBM was making. Not even a lockup could slow things down. David shifted gears and talked about the future of OS/2 including Symmetric Multiprocessing (planed to be out this year), the Apple-IBM alliance, Taligent, the WorkPlaceOS, etc. In contrast to the NT presentation by Microsoft, the OS/2 presentation by IBM was lean, fast and exciting. The OS/2 multimedia presentation "brought down the house". It was GREAT! At several points there were two simultaneous real-time video + soundtrack pieces running on screen simultaneously without video hardware assist. I was very impressed. At the end of the presentations there was a question and answer session. Many constructive questions were directed towards IBM. The MS representatives, on the other hand, got grilled. One guy asked Microsoft's representative, Doug Davis, a hypothetical question: If NT sales do not live up to Microsoft's expectations, would Microsoft change direction and drop NT like they did with OS/2 a couple of years back? Doug replied: "I hope not." After the audience questions and answer session, the HAL-PC users group meeting moderator asked the audience a few questions. He asked how many people planned to upgrade to OS/2 2.1 right away. Hundreds of individuals, about half the people in the audience, raised their hands. He then asked how many people planned to move to NT. I saw ONLY TWO PEOPLE raise their hands. Out of 1,300, TWO. This was not what I expected. With all of the hype and Microsoft Marketing Muscle, I expected far more "votes" for NT. I expect that this is the first time that majority of these people have seen both NT and OS/2 V2.1 live and up close and this may possibly be the reaction of more "average users" when they have a chance to see these OS's for themselves. I only wish that Bill Gates could have been there to see it with his own eyes. David Matocha Smartnet OS/2 Conference Moderator david.mato...@yob.scci.com dmato...@lobby.ti.com Disclaimer: I speak for myself.